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			<title><![CDATA[ Murkin ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I remember reading in a turn-of-the century dictionary the word &quot;Murkin&quot; - a noun for the pubic pelt.  I currently live in Spain and access to turn-of-the-century english dictionaries is limited.  Could anyone confirm either:1) I remember correctly, or 2) I am, as my friends feel, slipping past the edge of sanity.<br><br>Please help. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 31 May 2002 12:32:07 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ err... umm... uh... ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ thought some of you might like to read this. <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.nature.com/nsu/020527/020527-2.html">www.nature.com/nsu/020527/020527-2.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 31 May 2002 12:03:52 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Peking/Beijing ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ How come that English speakers rushed to call Peking Beijing as soon as this was demanded by the Chinese government, but still call Lyon Lyons and Marseille Marseilles? ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 31 May 2002 03:54:20 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ nostalgia ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Dictionary.com says nostalgia comes from the Greek NOSTOS meaning a return to home and ALGIA which is pain. NOSTOS is related to indoEuropean Root NES.<br><br>Does anyone know a web site that has the Indo- European Root data?  What does NES mean?  It it mans &quot;home,&quot; does &quot;nest&quot; come from it? &quot;Neighborhood?&quot; ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 30 May 2002 16:29:31 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Holy Cow ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Can someone please tell me where the expression Holy Cow comes from?<br><br>Thanks. ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ SPAM ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ As relating to email junk mail.<br><br>I first heard this while I was living in Hawai'i where SPAM is very much still a common food even after it's popularization during WWII. Since then I have heard mentions of it on several occasions.<br>SPAM (the actual meat [if you can call it actual meat]) was a common staple especially for islanders and soldiers during the WWII era. The arrival of SPAM coincided with the GI's mail shipments. It became common to expect large shipments of SPAM to come... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 30 May 2002 13:42:47 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ stool pigeon ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Has anyone heard this popular etymology for stool pigeon?<br>One carrier pigeon would be tied to a stool (possibly with a bag over its head?), and then a whole flock would come and investigate.  Then you could net or shoot them all.  <br>I first heard this in a science textbook, illustrating species extinction.  It convinced me, but I guess it is much too late to be the real origin?  Does anyone know if this was an actual practice or just a tale?<br>Sorry if this has been discussed before,... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 30 May 2002 13:41:45 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Out of whack ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Why do we say that something is 'out of whack'? ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 30 May 2002 00:59:04 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ quick brown fox revisited ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ FWIW, I just read a review of the book &quot;Ella Minnow Pea&quot; (Mark Dunn; MacAdam/Cage, 2001), and it mentions that Nollopton SC is named after Nevin Nollop, &quot;author of the sentence 'The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog'&quot;.<br><br>The book is fiction, but I cannot tell if the town or namesake is supposedly real.  Will MapQuest/google later....<br><br> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2002 21:09:19 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Green Yeggs &amp; ... ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ This one comes up in crossword puzzles a lot.  &quot;Yegg&quot; is apparently British slang for a safecracker, although I think I've also seen it used to imply a person of overall ill repute.  What's its derivation? ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2002 14:40:56 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Redskin ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ A newspaper columnist in Porterville, California recently reported that &quot;The term [redskin] evolved from the days when the British put a bounty on the heads of Indians, a bounty paid when the hunter brought in the scalps or skin from any other part of an Indian he'd killed. That word became commonplace because of the bloody red skins of innocent people.&quot;<br><br>That sounds unlikely to me.  Anyone know more about this term?<br> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2002 07:48:44 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Pervez Musharraf ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ When the Pakistani president Pervez Musharraf appears in uniform (which he does roughly speaking half of the time) he wears a name tag saying &quot;Pervez&quot;. To me this shows that Pervez is his family name and Musharraf his &quot;first&quot; name. Why then do the foreign media who would not dream of calling the US president for president George call the Pakistani president something to that effect? ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2002 21:29:53 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Theory/Theology ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I have been unable to determine if the root &quot;theo&quot; is the same in these... Apparently yes, in that &quot;theo&quot;--latin for god--appears to be based on the greek &quot;theo&quot;--spectator, but I haven't been able to figure out the connection between the two words.<br><br>In case you're wondering, this question arose because my son made a pun on &quot;theology&quot; and &quot;theory&quot; as it related to the theory of evolution. <br><br>Thanks. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2002 19:41:13 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ nerf--foam projectile or insult to hans solo? ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ my friends and i have been discussing the word &quot;nerf.&quot;  where did it come from?  <br><br>it is used in star wars: empire strikes back.  the princess calls hans solo a scruffy looking &quot;nerf herder.&quot;  he takes it quite offensively.<br><br>then, there's the nerf brand which makes toys out of foam.<br><br>and finally, the band called the nerf herders (which is of course from star wars).<br><br>my hypothesis is that &quot;nerf&quot; refers to a substance of nothingness.  hans... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ California, the land of milk and honey? ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I thought it would be easy to find some information on the name of that big western state, the one which contains the cities of Los Angeles and San Francisco.  I've not had luck yet.  Perhaps people here can resolve this appalling bit on ignorance on my part.<br><br>&quot;California&quot;  -Greek roots passing through Spain? ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2002 18:57:14 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ seesaw ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ MWO says &quot;prolly&quot; reduplication of verb &quot;saw&quot;...from its resemblance to the up-and-down/back-and-forth cutting motion, I suppose...but...that only leads me to wonder whether it was &quot;sawsaw&quot; at one point?  Or even &quot;seesee&quot;?<br><br>While we're at it, any use for &quot;sawsee&quot;?<br><br> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2002 14:54:22 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ An &quot;0ld Saw&quot; ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ One of my kids asked me where the term &quot;an old saw&quot; came from.  I've used it all my life.<br><br>I have searched Mencken, and Funk, and Espy, and, my &quot;Dictionary of Americanisms&quot;, and Safire, etc. No help. If I didn't know it myself, I'd think no one else used it.<br><br>Anyone know it's history?<br><br>Thanks.<br><br>jmpoer<br><br>jmpoer@ix.netcom.com ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2002 13:49:41 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ golliwog ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ can anyone help with the origins of the name. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2002 13:26:09 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Ruth's Chris ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Someone wanna explain to me the GRAMMAR of this name?!  I simply cannot grasp the logic, unless Mama Ruth has several diff chains, each named after one child.<br><br>Incidentally, Ruth is a surname (owner Ann K. Ruth), in case that helps.  No, it didn't for me, either....<br><br> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2002 10:05:23 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ apostophit ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ At what point in time did the final apostrophe vanish from the possessive form of its?  Was this a conscious effort to avoid the ubiquitous it's/its' confusion? (of which I've suddenly seen a renaissance in--of all places--television commercials, mostly network ads for shows, if you can believe it, maybe a half-dozen in the past two/three months, and I don't watch TV often)  When I was in school, as recently as ten years ago, we were taught that the possesive its must have a final apostrophe.... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2002 09:50:07 GMT</pubDate>
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