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			<title><![CDATA[ logists and logians ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Biologist, zoologist, but not theologist.<br>SOED gives -logian as an older form with -logist as the only current formation, and dates astrologian as far back as Chaucer.<br>Astrologian/astrologist and geologian/geologist are examples where both forms are accepted by OED, even if -logian is largely obsolete.<br>Anybody know when the shift happened, and why? And why has theologian not shifted? ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2003 05:04:11 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Agony aunt ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ A column in today's Guardian lambasts a TV play set in the 30s for using this term anachronistically.<br><br>When was it first used? ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2003 23:59:50 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Whiz Kids ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Unless Im way off, the posts below at the newsgroups, re whiz kids, do a better job of tracing the origin of that phrase than OED, Barry Popik, or the American Dialect Society; see:<br><br><a... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2003 15:05:28 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ guglet or gugglet ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ On Antiques Roadshow this evening, the expert solemnly pronounced something shaped like a carafe a "guglet" because "it goes guggle, guggle"!  (True - I saw him!)<br><br>Is there such a word as guglet?  It's not in SOED. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2003 10:36:58 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ hythe ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ J.R.R. Tolkien uses this word &quot;hythe&quot; in his tale of the ring. I've not found this word in a dictionary, and I tend to believe this word is the same in meaning as heath, considering its context in the story: &quot;At some distance up from the meeting of the streams, there was a hythe of white stones and white wood.&quot; Can anyone verify this word's meaning? If, indeed, it does mean the same as heath, I wonder what would have led the author to use this more obscure word. Your... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2003 21:36:24 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ re Philologos; epiphany ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I came across an interesting article from the American Jewish magazine <i>Forward</i> detailing the search for a Yiddish counterpart to 'epiphany' apropos the Greek origin of the word <a href="http://www.forward.com/issues/2003/03.04.25/philologos.html">here</a>. I suspect if neither of them have seen it that both JGorman64 and WlmJames should especially find it of interest. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2003 20:33:47 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ wrassling ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ what's the deal with wrestling and wrassling?  How did "wrassling" as a term spring forth? ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2003 17:06:30 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Role model ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ What's the date for this? Does it come from psychological jargon? ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2003 11:47:46 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Axe ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Any ideas as to when and why a guitar became known as an axe? ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2003 11:45:38 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ old words ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Can anybody say what the oldest word in usage today is whether in English or any other language?<br><br>Can anybody say what the oldest English word in usage today is?<br><br>Can anybody say what the first known word in any language was?<br><br>Can anybody say what the first word of English was?<br><br>Can anybody say how the first primordial utterances came to be words?<br><br>I realize these are all "yes or no" questions, but maybe somebody can add some detail as well.<br><br>Thanks,<br>cpc ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2003 11:39:26 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Penitentiary ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Is this word used in British English? And is it different in meaning from  "prison" ? ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2003 07:17:03 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Cold-cock ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ As in <i>He cold-cocked him</i>, ie knocked him out cold.<br><br>How old is this, and any ideas about the derivation? ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2003 04:39:52 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ &quot;punch list&quot; ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ What is the origin of this phrase?  We fill out a punch list to make a tally of incomplete work items. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2003 02:00:09 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ beget ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Beget, according to "The New Oxford Dictionary of English" , "(typically of a man, also of a man and a woman) bring (a child) into existence by the process of reproduction" . My question is, can a woman "beget" a chind?  As in the followings: <br><br>My aunt begot a lovely boy last night. <br><br>Is it grammatically correct?  Thank you in advance. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2003 00:46:46 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Chinatown ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Which was the first city district to be described thus? ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2003 22:19:47 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ papa lapped a pap lopped ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ This (subject) phrase is the name of a Japanese song... the artist says it should mean something to an English speaker.  I've heard vulgar meanings suggested but then I recently saw the phrase played upon in a movie review headline for the new movie "Chasing Papi" as "laughs lap a tired Papi."  I don't believe the newspaper would have published the headline if the original phrase were referencing a vulgarity.  <br>I was beginning to think there was no basis to the phrase/song title until... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2003 21:16:10 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ hackneyed phrases ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Ever notice how certain phrases catch on and hang on like a bad penny?  E's.g.,<br>"At the end of the day" (probably derived from Les Miserables),<br>"That said",<br>"That being said".<br><br>Ig you watch the Fox News in the evenings in the states, it's darn near a 80% to 90% you are going to hear all three of these in every segment during prime-time.<br><br>If I had a nickle for everytime I've heard pundits and guests on news analysis programs use these in the past 6 months or so, I'd be in... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:28:02 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Hello, Nurse! ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ What the hell does this mean?<br><br> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2003 13:59:52 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ baby boom ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I had always thought this term referred specifically to the generation born following WWII, but MWO dates it to 1941.<br><br>Can anyone (OED maybe?) provide a cite of this early usage?  1941 seems a bit late for it to refer to a population surge following WWI.  Was there a <i>boom</i> during the depression?  All that unemployment, nothing else to do...? ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Jetty Jim)</author>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2003 09:48:14 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Hair of the dog ]]></title>
			<link>http://wordoriginsorg.yuku.com/topic/4160/t/Hair-of-the-dog.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ anybody know where this phrase comes from? ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2003 08:43:52 GMT</pubDate>
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